I just thought of something that was fairly interesting to me....

The guys here in Null want learning implants to go away. I also saw a few of you asking for more combat implants. My question is this...

If you already unwilling to lose 600m worth of +5 learning implants, how can you justify more high grade and low grade combat implants when they're going to cost 700-2b isk with Omega ? If you won't lose simple +5 implants then I highly doubt that you'll ever use combat implants.

I'm mixed on this topic.

Attribute implants make up a decent part of the eve market. I'm not sure just ripping it out is a good idea. Would all the attribute implants I own just vanish with no reimbursment?

But there is definitely a problem with people not wanting to go into null sec because of bubbles.

What if you could warp your pod out of a bubble? The risk in null sec would be the same as the risk in low sec/high sec.

I acknowledge the problem. People should not see themselves excluded from the multiplayer aspects of the game because this kind of stupid reasons. I'm just not so certain what the best solution is.

Every single "new player" i've known in this game that has quit eve, has quit for reasons relating to highsec. Things relating to the lack of mission variety. Mining is boring. Things along those lines. I have never heard someone say they quit the game in the first month because I trained faster than they did.

Say guys, if there was a shorter, 4h or something, timer for clone jumping within the same station, would it solve the issue with wrong hardwiring + learning implants?

Do you have a source for this claim?

This is the problem with a lot of people who play this game for the sake of PvP, and believe me, I'm NOT saying you're wrong, is that they're so narrow focused on one of the major facets of this game that there are other facets that they miss out on. True, said people may not find it attractive, they may find it boring, they may not have any interest in it. PvP is not the END ALL & BE ALL of this game, and THAT is what fascinates me about EVE.

The only real difference between 1-5 and 6-10 is that 1-5 adds SP which extend the life of your character (excluding certain scenarios where SP can be lost), where as 6-10 grants bonuses for that moment, however, 6-10 may give you the edge you need over another player in PvP, or allows you to bring in more rocks per cycle, or whatever for "that moment in time". Either way, the implants give an edge. The point of ALL the implants are to give players the choice in WHICH edge they want. It'd be also up to the player to put in the 100 mill implant to get that extra 5% bonus for tracking speeds (I don't know if there is an implant that does that, just picking something for PvP) so it'd be THEIR decision if they want to pay in ISK for that edge.

I would also like to point out that your training time as a new player is much different than when your an older player. As a new player, you primary train skills that are between the 1x to 5x training times. Older players are in a far different situation. We have to train skills in the 8x to 14x range. Newer players don't need the +5 learning implants as much as older players do. If they have to train in +3 implants for a while, it really isn't a big deal. They don't have to sit through 52 day skills when they want something to level 5.

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All this puts off people from engaging in risky activities, which is bad for the game and the other players. The most people in space to meet / fight, the better.


Remove the learning implants. Lower / Remove the medical clone price.